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| Topic Started: Dec 3 2014, 01:45 AM (3,091 Views) | |
| CupcakeTrap | Dec 3 2014, 01:45 AM Post #1 |
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| drmigit2 | Dec 3 2014, 08:40 AM Post #2 |
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Guys, I know it's crazy. I know nobody knows what will happen, and the consequences could be disastrous. But let's be honest here, does anyone NOT want to see what unleashing that nexus magic on frejlord bear people would do? I know I want to see what would happen if we did it. So, I suggest we just go for full control over the island. The frejlord's army just can't compare to ours in any meaningful way. So if we attack them, they shouldn't be able to stop us. |
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| StormRevolver | Dec 3 2014, 09:25 AM Post #3 |
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we should go for the nexus in that case we may secure both ionia and bilgewater support, and then freljord can do whatever he wants |
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| ChroniclerC | Dec 3 2014, 10:14 AM Post #4 |
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We can't touch the research check to deal with the Nexus. This is an epic military check, and we have an epic military. I kinda feel that Freljord's presence on the island is moot; They don't have the military to deal with any of the three other armies on the island, and their odds at the research check are almost as bad as ours. I say we stomp across the island a crush someone. I'm not particularly pick about which kingdom we destroy. If Freljord (or Bilgewater, or Ionia) wants to help us, fine. If they want to futz with the nexus, fine. I'd like to deal with the nexus eventually, since I feel that the overall plot is to stabilize all the nexuses to stabilize the main island, but we can do that ~after~ we've dealt with this war so that Karthus can play with the nexus without armies breathing down his neck. EDIT: Oh, before I forget. I recommend we send a champ with the Terror trait (Nocturne or Fiddlesticks), as I suspect a decent chunk of that 60 point army is composed of Rabble that we can just shut down with fear. Edited by ChroniclerC, Dec 3 2014, 10:18 AM.
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| StormRevolver | Dec 3 2014, 11:11 AM Post #5 |
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well if we never try to improve our research we wont be able to have higher chances at the nexus so might as well just count on luck |
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| 501st Big Mike | Dec 3 2014, 11:54 AM Post #6 |
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From what I can tell, Bilgewater likes us, hates Ionia, and distrusts Freljord. Ionia kinda likes us, kinda doesn't. Freljord is well...unpredictable. From this, I could see Ionia going either way for who to support, but I think the odds are slightly in our favor. Bilgewater most definitely won't fight against us, and is more than likely to help us out. The worst case scenario (very unlikely to happen) I see is Ionia and Freljord teaming up against us, while best case is Bilgewater and Ionia join forces with us. Looking at that very unlikely worst case scenario, the Natives are both military 60, so they cancel each other out (although that can be heavily tipped with a champion that has the terror trait). That would leave Freljord and Ionia at combined strength of 67 versus our 90. We should win that fight, and that is the worst case scenario. With that in mind, I don't think there is much risk for us here, we can take whatever we want really. Here is the problem, we don't have great research for the Nexus. This leaves us a few option: 1) Work with the Freljord to restart Nexus, maybe combined we have a shot at it (results in splitting reward 2 ways); 2) Try to get Bilge and Ionia to help with restarting the Nexus (results in splitting prize 3 ways, or 2 if only 1 helps); 3) Help one kingdom overthrow the other and gain the benefits of allying with one of the sides (I presume it would be a military bonus of some sort, don't see need for an ally for this as its enemy kingdom 60 vs our 90 + ally kingdom 60). Edited by 501st Big Mike, Dec 3 2014, 07:06 PM.
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| Kaynunot | Dec 3 2014, 02:08 PM Post #7 |
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I already made my case here on why we should not go nthrough that course of action and instead work with the Frejlord. |
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| PONCHOGRANDE | Dec 3 2014, 02:40 PM Post #8 |
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We have almost zero reason to fight the Freljord on this island, and last time I checked the Freljord really couldn't care less about us. If Freljord wants to fix the nexus fine, if Freljord wants to destroy a kingdom we will help them do it. I see no reason for this to come to blows. We should try to destroy one of the kingdoms (doesn't matter which), as we can't hope to pass a research check so let's utilize our one strong asset. (Edit) I should read the updates better before I post, Freljord has a military strength of 32. We can basically do what we want with the island and the Freljord doesn't have a chance at stopping us. Still, we should go ahead with destroying a kingdom as planned, doesn't matter which kingdom we have to destroy to do it. If we get a chance to wipe the Freljord off the island and not have to share the loot in the process then we might as well. Edited by PONCHOGRANDE, Dec 3 2014, 04:24 PM.
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| drmigit2 | Dec 3 2014, 02:40 PM Post #9 |
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Working with the frejlord means splitting the loot 50/50. We don't have a good reason to, they don't add a whole lot and can totally be crushed if we need to crush them. We should make like Neritum and take the island for ourselves, imo. |
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| Ares the Proud | Dec 3 2014, 03:19 PM Post #10 |
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They have no millitary, even against both Ionia and Frel our army is better, I say we go balls deep and kick Frel off OUR island. |
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| Rakdosis | Dec 3 2014, 03:22 PM Post #11 |
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Working with Frejlord gives us both a nice little army buff, but fighting them could damage their army pretty well and reinforce or replace our lost units with their zombified ones which definately isn't bad either. Only things that are questionable are: 1. If we fight frejlord, we'll end up accepting help from someone most likely and will owe them a major reward and which is just adding a bit of fuel to the bilge fire. 2. the modifiers from the featured matches might throw us for a loop if it doesn't go well |
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| Ares the Proud | Dec 3 2014, 03:28 PM Post #12 |
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We do have bilge on our side, and anything other that 3-0 against us with no bilge support at all will probably go in our favor, especially if we send champions against them, Which i would suggest Noct, Morde, and Elise, probably our most effective combination of the champs we don't use much. |
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| Rakdosis | Dec 3 2014, 03:33 PM Post #13 |
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Also it was mentioned that fiddle and noc have some sort of fear modifier, which I assume refers to them having an ability that fears. Does Hec have this too seeing as his ult fears? |
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| Ares the Proud | Dec 3 2014, 03:43 PM Post #14 |
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Maybe, but i'd prefer to keep hecarim usable, noct has the abillity to nullify weaker forces than he is, and very few of us use him. |
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| StormRevolver | Dec 3 2014, 04:18 PM Post #15 |
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if anything we realy dont need to fight dirty... well whatever |
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| ChroniclerC | Dec 3 2014, 04:37 PM Post #16 |
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Champ traits Huh, turns out that Hec does have Terror. Good call. |
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| Xero the Emperor | Dec 3 2014, 04:47 PM Post #17 |
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I think we need to take the island completely to stay ahead and destroy Frejlord's hold. Their army can do nothing to stop us and if Ionia sides with them odds are Bilge will step up to help us out. If we play aggressively we will gain another nexus without splitting with Frejlord. The only way I can see us losing this battle is if Frejlord invokes the Nexus Rune Magic. Maybe we should use it just so Frejlord can't... |
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| Ragingfangs | Dec 3 2014, 05:10 PM Post #18 |
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Lets face it we all want to see that nexus do something. Then once it blow up in our faces laugh. Ok but seriously I think we should seize the nexus and you know if SOME PEOPLE had not given the gauntlet to syndra we would be on better terms with them and possibly have better military. Though we should seize the nexus. Screw peaceful we annihilate them we get more troops. Those kingdoms can burn |
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| StormRevolver | Dec 3 2014, 05:24 PM Post #19 |
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aand why exactly do we have to kick freljord out? we cant even keep our own islands together properly. |
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| StormRevolver | Dec 3 2014, 05:25 PM Post #20 |
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oh now that you remind me didnt the revote give it to morde? i didnt see anything about that and no new military unit or anything Edited by StormRevolver, Dec 3 2014, 05:25 PM.
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