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Topic Started: Dec 10 2014, 01:55 AM (3,154 Views)
CupcakeTrap
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Netherphoenix
Dec 10 2014, 05:08 PM
Do we get an opportunity to decide on how we would like them to be allocated? or are they done so based on how they were earned?
We generally just allocate them based on criteria including how they were earned and what the faction seems to want or be good at.

As for the Void Champions, you'd be making some kind of deal with the Void, and the word "Discord" would likely end up being whispered anxiously in the halls of the Institute, but it wouldn't be that kind of doomsday pact. Just ordinary Void-dealing.
Edited by CupcakeTrap, Dec 11 2014, 09:28 AM.
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CupcakeTrap
Dec 11 2014, 09:28 AM
As for the Void Champions, you'd be making some kind of deal with the Void, and the word "Discord" would likely end up being whispered anxiously in the halls of the Institute, but it wouldn't be that kind of doomsday pact. Just ordinary Void-dealing.
I am perfectly content with that. It gets whispered enough around me, and those soft-hearted fools wish they knew this level of power.
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Kuronan
Dec 11 2014, 09:12 AM
StormRevolver
Dec 11 2014, 01:50 AM
I was thinking but shoulndt we choose our leader AFTER we see how the other factions decide about the island and sanctions?
A good idea that can't be done because all factions have to act on initiative to each other rather than Reactionary... otherwise everyone would demand to be able to do their poll last so they could decide after knowing what the others are doing. Plus that would take even more time, time we don't have this arc.
its true, but i think in our case we are kinda deciding how agressive we should be based on how much the other factions corner us. It will be awkward if bilge actualy tries to repair bridges a bit and we go full wargear on them anyway.
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501st Big Mike
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StormRevolver
Dec 11 2014, 12:26 PM
Kuronan
Dec 11 2014, 09:12 AM
StormRevolver
Dec 11 2014, 01:50 AM
I was thinking but shoulndt we choose our leader AFTER we see how the other factions decide about the island and sanctions?
A good idea that can't be done because all factions have to act on initiative to each other rather than Reactionary... otherwise everyone would demand to be able to do their poll last so they could decide after knowing what the others are doing. Plus that would take even more time, time we don't have this arc.
its true, but i think in our case we are kinda deciding how agressive we should be based on how much the other factions corner us. It will be awkward if bilge actualy tries to repair bridges a bit and we go full wargear on them anyway.
The responses by Bilgewater summoners suggest the opposite. They don't feel any sorrow for bombing us and don't care to rebuild the metaphorical bridges.
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501st Big Mike
Dec 11 2014, 12:36 PM
The responses by Bilgewater summoners suggest the opposite. They don't feel any sorrow for bombing us and don't care to rebuild the metaphorical bridges.
I doubt anyone is sorry about opposing us, and honestly I am tired of playing nice, I'm tired of kissing up when it's now painfully clear no one likes us. No one will work with us. Not Bilgewater, not Frejlord, and certainly not Ionia. Press the offensive stats, force our Miltary and research to peak, offer no mercy to those who would show none. Soldiers of the Scourge Shadow Isles, Death Knights of Acherus Riders of the Shadow of War, Minions of the Darkness, Hear the call of the High Lord Inquisitor! RISE! The skies turn red with the blood of the fallen. The Lich Ruined King watches over us Minions, leave only Ashes and Misery in your destructive wake!
Edited by Kaynunot, Dec 11 2014, 01:09 PM.
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silencermage
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When does the poll close and if I want to change a vote do I just resubmit my choices?
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501st Big Mike
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silencermage
Dec 11 2014, 01:55 PM
When does the poll close and if I want to change a vote do I just resubmit my choices?
I think it lasts till Friday evening.
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501st Big Mike
Dec 11 2014, 02:08 PM
silencermage
Dec 11 2014, 01:55 PM
When does the poll close and if I want to change a vote do I just resubmit my choices?
I think it lasts till Friday evening.
Actually, I think we're planning to close it tonight, so we can do support/oppose.
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501st Big Mike
Dec 11 2014, 12:36 PM
StormRevolver
Dec 11 2014, 12:26 PM
Kuronan
Dec 11 2014, 09:12 AM
StormRevolver
Dec 11 2014, 01:50 AM
I was thinking but shoulndt we choose our leader AFTER we see how the other factions decide about the island and sanctions?
A good idea that can't be done because all factions have to act on initiative to each other rather than Reactionary... otherwise everyone would demand to be able to do their poll last so they could decide after knowing what the others are doing. Plus that would take even more time, time we don't have this arc.
its true, but i think in our case we are kinda deciding how agressive we should be based on how much the other factions corner us. It will be awkward if bilge actualy tries to repair bridges a bit and we go full wargear on them anyway.
The responses by Bilgewater summoners suggest the opposite. They don't feel any sorrow for bombing us and don't care to rebuild the metaphorical bridges.
i know, but just in case
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CupcakeTrap
Dec 11 2014, 02:10 PM
501st Big Mike
Dec 11 2014, 02:08 PM
silencermage
Dec 11 2014, 01:55 PM
When does the poll close and if I want to change a vote do I just resubmit my choices?
I think it lasts till Friday evening.
Actually, I think we're planning to close it tonight, so we can do support/oppose.
Do i just re submit my vote with changed answers then ?
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FrigidVengence
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I think we need to talk about two decisions quickly: Offensive or defensive espionage, and whether or not to spy on the League. Those two are only a few votes apart and could have a huge effect on us depending on which way they go.
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StormRevolver
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i think defensive. If the others dont stay home, they will try to get in our backyard
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StormRevolver
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uh reading the patch notes fiddle gets nerfed harder than ww
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Kaynunot
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StormRevolver
Dec 11 2014, 03:54 PM
uh reading the patch notes fiddle gets nerfed harder than ww
Warwick nerfs are still nasty enough that we need to pick up someone else.
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Kuronan
Dec 11 2014, 04:01 PM
StormRevolver
Dec 11 2014, 03:54 PM
uh reading the patch notes fiddle gets nerfed harder than ww
Warwick nerfs are still nasty enough that we need to pick up someone else.
Awww. :( I like WoofWoof.
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drmigit2
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StormRevolver
Dec 11 2014, 03:54 PM
uh reading the patch notes fiddle gets nerfed harder than ww
Fiddle main here. He didn't. Passive nerfs really don't matter. The nerf there is so situational that it almost is worth discounting entirely. So let's talk about the E changes. They do two things. The first is that a single crow probably won't bounce between a champion, a minion and then back to that champion ignoring the other minions (which happens more often than you would think.) On the other hand, escaping dark wind is now a very difficult task as now Fiddle can really easily just throw that crow onto a minion and let it just run straight to you. Fiddle's finisher has gotten a lot stronger, while his direct engage is mildly weaker. I say mildly because the silence reset maybe added another .5 seconds to it if you got lucky. Fiddlesticks is still one the strongest champions in the game and this won't do a lot to change that.
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drmigit2
Dec 11 2014, 05:52 PM
StormRevolver
Dec 11 2014, 03:54 PM
uh reading the patch notes fiddle gets nerfed harder than ww
Fiddle main here. He didn't. Passive nerfs really don't matter. The nerf there is so situational that it almost is worth discounting entirely. So let's talk about the E changes. They do two things. The first is that a single crow probably won't bounce between a champion, a minion and then back to that champion ignoring the other minions (which happens more often than you would think.) On the other hand, escaping dark wind is now a very difficult task as now Fiddle can really easily just throw that crow onto a minion and let it just run straight to you. Fiddle's finisher has gotten a lot stronger, while his direct engage is mildly weaker. I say mildly because the silence reset maybe added another .5 seconds to it if you got lucky. Fiddlesticks is still one the strongest champions in the game and this won't do a lot to change that.
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drmigit2
Dec 11 2014, 05:52 PM
StormRevolver
Dec 11 2014, 03:54 PM
uh reading the patch notes fiddle gets nerfed harder than ww
Fiddle main here. He didn't. Passive nerfs really don't matter. The nerf there is so situational that it almost is worth discounting entirely. So let's talk about the E changes. They do two things. The first is that a single crow probably won't bounce between a champion, a minion and then back to that champion ignoring the other minions (which happens more often than you would think.) On the other hand, escaping dark wind is now a very difficult task as now Fiddle can really easily just throw that crow onto a minion and let it just run straight to you. Fiddle's finisher has gotten a lot stronger, while his direct engage is mildly weaker. I say mildly because the silence reset maybe added another .5 seconds to it if you got lucky. Fiddlesticks is still one the strongest champions in the game and this won't do a lot to change that.
but one of his best gank defense was bouncing the crow between the 2 would be killers silencing them long enough to fall back and doing pretty good damage. and now it will just travel off towards the minions
Edited by StormRevolver, Dec 11 2014, 06:46 PM.
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501st Big Mike
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StormRevolver
Dec 11 2014, 06:45 PM
drmigit2
Dec 11 2014, 05:52 PM
StormRevolver
Dec 11 2014, 03:54 PM
uh reading the patch notes fiddle gets nerfed harder than ww
Fiddle main here. He didn't. Passive nerfs really don't matter. The nerf there is so situational that it almost is worth discounting entirely. So let's talk about the E changes. They do two things. The first is that a single crow probably won't bounce between a champion, a minion and then back to that champion ignoring the other minions (which happens more often than you would think.) On the other hand, escaping dark wind is now a very difficult task as now Fiddle can really easily just throw that crow onto a minion and let it just run straight to you. Fiddle's finisher has gotten a lot stronger, while his direct engage is mildly weaker. I say mildly because the silence reset maybe added another .5 seconds to it if you got lucky. Fiddlesticks is still one the strongest champions in the game and this won't do a lot to change that.
but one of his best gank defense was bouncing the crow between the 2 would be killers silencing them long enough to fall back and doing pretty good damage. and now it will just travel off towards the minions
Depends on how close to the minion wave they are. But in general, yeah, harder gank defense.
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FrigidVengence
Dec 11 2014, 03:33 PM
I think we need to talk about two decisions quickly: Offensive or defensive espionage, and whether or not to spy on the League. Those two are only a few votes apart and could have a huge effect on us depending on which way they go.
No one has bothered doing any espionage against us yet. As it stands, the effects of any espionage act against us have no real meaning. The effects would be one of these (or combination thereof):

  • Loss in Favor
  • Research hindered
  • Possible champs go mia (is it possible to lose a summoner spell through espionage? even if so it falls under same category or hurting us in-game)

If you look at where we are in this arc, none of those really hurt us. We have no favor as it stands, our research has gotten nowhere all arc, and we are already sanctioned on top of being in last place, making trying to hurt our in-game performance laughable. There isn't anything the factions gain, or take from us, by committing espionage against us. I would think they would be trying to be digging up secrets on each other to get one of the other factions sanctioned during tournament so they have a better chance of winning.

I think going counter espionage would be a waste for us, we've been stuck in it all arc and no one has bothered to go after us (and probably will be assuming we will stick to counter espionage and so won't want to try any against us). I think that we need to do some espionage that would help out our research. The league is the obvious choice with that goal in mind.
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