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Espionage against the Freljord; SPOOK 'EM
Topic Started: Dec 12 2014, 07:48 PM (1,359 Views)
CupcakeTrap
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I'm proud of you, SI. You have been gutsy and selected an Espionage mission against the Freljord, and you went whole-hog (lol Sejuani), selecting the "MESS THEM UP" option. (Good choice of target on the Freljord; their Espionage sucks, whereas Ionia is super-badass-ninja-land.)

Vote Here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1cIa3Y-Te9Ui2sJUe9WOJWN5RnhpREYWIJpwKn07aXQA/viewform?usp=send_form
Results So Far: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1cIa3Y-Te9Ui2sJUe9WOJWN5RnhpREYWIJpwKn07aXQA/viewanalytics


UPDATE: Some people have indicated that they may not be too keen on the whole Substitution of Field thing.

Here's a withdraw/maintain vote. If you want to keep Substitution of Field, vote maintain. If you want to drop it, vote withdraw. If this petition is withdrawn, you'll get to support or oppose an extra petition from another faction instead. (You'll get to support or oppose a total of two petitions instead of one.)

Vote Here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1uqTbevFeZOFwmzc2FZ6gopj1sZJKNeaFOR2vQaEiqZ0/viewform?usp=send_form
Results So Far: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1uqTbevFeZOFwmzc2FZ6gopj1sZJKNeaFOR2vQaEiqZ0/viewanalytics

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And here's a copy-and-paste of the relevant rules:


Bombing

Set off a huge bomb (or something similar) inside the target faction’s home territory. This is a psycho option, and requires at least 65% support.
Mission Difficulty: Easy (Espionage +20%)
If successful: Lots of people die. Target randomly loses 2 Champions for the next weekend of Featured Matches. (They’re either injured or busy helping survivors.) Target loses its Research and Industry rolls for the next two weeks. Target loses 3d20 Commerce.
Evasion Difficulty: Longshot (Espionage -40%)
Stigma: 35
Being caught triggers a devastating array of sanctions. The faction will likely become a pariah.
Pay double the lost Commerce back to the victim.
For the next two weeks of Featured Matches, and the next Tournament if any, the victim gets two real bans against the bombing faction.

Assassinate Champion

Assassinate an enemy Champion. (For various reasons, no, you can’t actually kill them, but you can take them out of action for a while.)
Mission Difficulty: Standard (Espionage with no modifier)
If successful: Champion is taken out of play for the next two weeks.
Evasion Difficulty: Longshot (Espionage -40%)
Stigma: 15
If caught: the guilty faction’s opponents get a free Champion ban against them in every match for the next two weeks.


Sabotage Research

Disrupt the target faction’s research, setting them back and potentially triggering a disaster.
Mission Difficulty: Standard (Espionage)
If successful: target faction loses its next set of research rolls and must make a Danger Level check at double the usual Danger Level.
Evasion Difficulty: Difficult (Espionage -20%)
If the spy is caught, the target faction loses its next set of research rolls, but does not have to make a Danger Level check that week. The target faction will instead be spending the time checking and double-checking everything to make sure it’s safe to proceed.
Stigma: 10 (increased to 20 if the target faction fails its doubled Danger Level check).


Steal Research

Swipe some research from the target faction.
Mission Difficulty: Difficult (Espionage -20%)
If successful: next week, gain bonus research equal to three times the target faction’s base research score.
Evasion Difficulty: Difficult (Espionage -20%)
Stigma: 10
Edited by CupcakeTrap, Dec 13 2014, 12:32 AM.
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drmigit2
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You know, before this I would be willing to play nice and do nice things. But, now is not the time to be nice. Let's bomb the Fejlord.
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Kaynunot
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Kuronan Estimare, Psionic Psion of House Estimare
Spooklear Launch Detected (lets nuke their sorry butts)
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501st Big Mike
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I reserve the right to be loudly opinionated on subjects I am completely ignorant of

Bombing doesn't give us much, although it hurts them the most. I would prefer stealing research, cause I prefer increasing our strength over hurting them. But, its pretty clear SI really wants to make the other factions hurt.
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Xero the Emperor
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I agree with Big Mike. While I would love some more research we need to show that when you mess with the bull you get the horns. Anyone who messes with SI will suffer the consequences.
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ChroniclerC
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I third Big Mike's option. I would lurv me some moar research.
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ChroniclerC
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Also, no option on the poll to Assassinate Lissandra? Is she immune because she's the leader? Frankly, if we're taking the shot, I'd like to take the shot at her because she's the leader.

EDIT: Also also, was Bilge's choice to condemn Freljord just for the Krocyla sanctions, or did the also do the "Condem Faction" politics option? If the latter, I'd like to switch my vote to support that. *grin*
Edited by ChroniclerC, Dec 12 2014, 10:45 PM.
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drmigit2
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501st Big Mike
Dec 12 2014, 09:50 PM
Bombing doesn't give us much, although it hurts them the most. I would prefer stealing research, cause I prefer increasing our strength over hurting them. But, its pretty clear SI really wants to make the other factions hurt.
How does research help us now? We already finished night terrors. We can't finish another project before the arc ends. Let's just make them hurt. BOMBS AWAYYYY
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drmigit2
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Oh yeah, one other thing. If the majority of people voted for a major action to happen (assassinate or bombing), but quite a few people vote neither, what happens? I think we should go with the highest rated major espionage. IE:

12 votes total:

Bombing: 4
Assassinate: 3
Neither: 5

I think we should either have a secondary choice, or in this particular case go with bombing as the chosen option, no?
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StormRevolver
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uh bombing too indiscrimante for the shadow isles i think. Assasination fits okay. oh killing of anivia could be big. but im not sure we wanna squander our espionage on micro benefits.
Edited by StormRevolver, Dec 13 2014, 01:55 AM.
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Damaster00777
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We finally get to bomb someone! Yes!
On the other hand, weirdly enough, I wanna support Bilge's petition and oppose the Disqualifications. I don't remember how many support/opposes we get, but that's my thought process.
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StormRevolver
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yay? bombing seriously doesnt give us anything we just help bilge or ionia win the tournament while we take the hit.
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CupcakeTrap
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Follow-up question: Bombing didn't get enough votes to succeed. Do you want to do something minor, or try to assassinate a Champion?
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drmigit2
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I guess we assassinate anivia then.
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Kaynunot
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If we can't bomb I say Steal Research for whatever our next project is. Gods know our research is absolute shit this arc...
Edited by Kaynunot, Dec 13 2014, 03:12 PM.
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CupcakeTrap
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I asked Mike. We went with "Steal Research". SI failed, but wasn't caught. So it really had no effect, other than to add a Secret (that they tried to steal research).
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Kaynunot
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Why does failing Espionage still create a secret if we aren't caught? Logically we could just destroy all evidence we even intended it. Boom, no secret because we failed, weren't caught and removed evidence we even attempted it.
Edited by Kaynunot, Dec 13 2014, 09:56 PM.
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501st Big Mike
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I reserve the right to be loudly opinionated on subjects I am completely ignorant of

Kuronan
Dec 13 2014, 09:55 PM
Why does failing Espionage still create a secret if we aren't caught? Logically we could just destroy all evidence we even intended it. Boom, no secret because we failed, weren't caught and removed evidence we even attempted it.
Also, I don't think that SI has much evidence to cover up. It's not like we have to give our spies written orders and instructions, we are the undead for crying out loud.
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CupcakeTrap
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501st Big Mike
Dec 13 2014, 09:57 PM
Kuronan
Dec 13 2014, 09:55 PM
Why does failing Espionage still create a secret if we aren't caught? Logically we could just destroy all evidence we even intended it. Boom, no secret because we failed, weren't caught and removed evidence we even attempted it.
Also, I don't think that SI has much evidence to cover up. It's not like we have to give our spies written orders and instructions, we are the undead for crying out loud.
It's just how the rules work. Failed missions create Secrets. Enough happened that there are people in the Freljord who realize that something happened, but they can't prove it (yet). That's the definition of a Factions Secret: something that people suspect, but cannot yet prove. I should point out that it's a fairly minor Secret, with a cap on the maximum sanctions possible.
Edited by CupcakeTrap, Dec 13 2014, 10:02 PM.
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501st Big Mike
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CupcakeTrap
Dec 13 2014, 10:02 PM
501st Big Mike
Dec 13 2014, 09:57 PM
Kuronan
Dec 13 2014, 09:55 PM
Why does failing Espionage still create a secret if we aren't caught? Logically we could just destroy all evidence we even intended it. Boom, no secret because we failed, weren't caught and removed evidence we even attempted it.
Also, I don't think that SI has much evidence to cover up. It's not like we have to give our spies written orders and instructions, we are the undead for crying out loud.
It's just how the rules work. Failed missions create Secrets. Enough happened that there are people in the Freljord who realize that something happened, but they can't prove it (yet). That's the definition of a Factions Secret: something that people suspect, but cannot yet prove. I should point out that it's a fairly minor Secret, with a cap on the maximum sanctions possible.
What about some option to use your next 2-3 espionage events to cover up some smaller secrets? Would be an interesting mechanic to employ. It would get the faction in question to have to play nice for a while after doing some nasty stuff (assumming that they care to cover up their secrets instead of going onto next espionage act). It would force the faction consider the fact that they would be announcing that they aren't going to be able to do any espionage acts, or activate its counter-espionage, for a while, and making itself an potential target.
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