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Plan your (our) rampage; You've got a huge army. What are you going to do with it?
Topic Started: Dec 13 2014, 09:06 PM (3,104 Views)
Ares the Proud
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I approve of Big Mike's plans. We tried being sane, it didn't work. Its time to be crazy. Lets go balls to the walls, by the time our next chance to be Si comes around, we'll be a year or so off i imagine, so lets just get shit done.
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RaptorAttacks
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I'm all for ganging up on someone who can't beat us (UNLESS THE GUARDIANS OF MORALITY AND BALANCE, IONIA, COME ALONG). I think we could beat anyone except the GUARDIANS OF MORALITY.

Unless we had books.
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Kaynunot
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RaptorAttacks
Dec 14 2014, 01:03 PM
Unless we had books.
If Shadow Isles fights Ionia, can we have a moment where a Champion throws a book at Karma as a taunt? CAN WE PLEASE? Or maybe add this somewhere in the Krocylea update.
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HuntingPanther
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Dec 14 2014, 10:10 AM
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Dec 14 2014, 07:04 AM
I am all for getting a little payback at the rest of the factions for Krocylea, taking a piece of Yoroth would just be icing on the cake. I also agree with what is being said here, our strategy should be to divide and conquer, inflicting as much damage as possible with the forces we have. If we do end up getting access to Yoroth, it would be an awful shame if something were to happen to the nexus there. An awful shame indeed... *moustache twirl*
I totally just came up with one crazy ass plan. If we do manage to get into Yoroth, we hold the Mega-Nexus hostage. We used our option of speaking to the dead to learn more about the cataclysm and what caused the Mega-Nexus to fail; we could, presumably, use that knowledge to make the Mega-Nexus Explode. Getting something to blow up would be easier than trying to fix it, and with the knowledge from the cataclysm we should know exactly what is wrong with the Mega-Nexus.

We wouldn't just blow the Nexus up, but, like I said, hold it hostage. We place our armies around it and tell the faction who wins the arc, whoever they may be, that if they want us to not blow up the Nexus, which would potentially destroy what was left of Nyroth, they have to split the arc-winning rewards with us.

This is one crazy ass plan, and I'm not even sure if I would support it if it became an option, but it would allow us to actually make gains equal to that of winning an arc if we did it successfully.
I like this idea as well as most of the other ones, but won't exploding the nexus with our army surrounding it destroy our army as well?
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RaptorAttacks
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I'd suggest using our Bone Dragon as a shield from most of the blast, but I REALLY don't want it to die. We could try and rig the nexus to explode using some sort of timed explosive, giving us enough time to Bone-Dragon away to safety, wait for whoever wins to die, then fly back.
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drmigit2
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Dec 14 2014, 03:49 PM
I'd suggest using our Bone Dragon as a shield from most of the blast, but I REALLY don't want it to die. We could try and rig the nexus to explode using some sort of timed explosive, giving us enough time to Bone-Dragon away to safety, wait for whoever wins to die, then fly back.
It's implied blowing up the nexus would sink the mainland too. At least if I am correct on my readings. We really don't want to have to blow it up.
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Damaster00777
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I want in on this thread. We summoned aatrox, let's be breaking shit and blowing shit up.

I'm all for the return to Daeuyx to build our military more, considering that's all we have right now.
Returning to Krolcyea or waging war on Yoroth sounds fun too, but we should get as much military as we can before we do that so that another charge of the pig-copulators doesn't leave us 5 men shy of a victory.
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RednaxelaKor
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As much fun as holding the nexus hostage would be, I feel sanctions are a concern. If we end up sinking Nyroth and mass murdering thousands of people of all nationalities, the Shadow Isles will likely have action taken against it by the League. Something on the level of a Lucian-led crusade to destroy and enslave us once and for all. Maybe I'm worried about nothing, but I think for sure the two islands, Daeyux and Neritum, need to be conquered. I support the interception option, where we still reap benefits while avoiding unnecessary genocide. We will likely take some flak, but not nearly as much as we would if we sank the continent. Push comes to shove, we destroy them and we get a slap on the wrist from the League.
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drmigit2
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Freljord won the tournament, which works even better for us. If we can ambush Ionia, the Frejlord will be in no position to resist our demands. I say our first objective is to secure our army, then we ambush Ionia, wiping out their forces. Once we do this, we block off Yosoth and demand access to the nexus. Our army will be unstoppable, and Bilgewater will have no intention of doing jack squat about it, assuming they stay neutral.
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RednaxelaKor
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drmigit2
Dec 14 2014, 06:26 PM
Freljord won the tournament, which works even better for us. If we can ambush Ionia, the Frejlord will be in no position to resist our demands. I say our first objective is to secure our army, then we ambush Ionia, wiping out their forces. Once we do this, we block off Yosoth and demand access to the nexus. Our army will be unstoppable, and Bilgewater will have no intention of doing jack squat about it, assuming they stay neutral.
Would Bilgewater pass up the opportunity to gain favor by teaming up with Freljord against us? Because we summoned Aatrox, the League would likely offer rewards to people who stop us.
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Dec 14 2014, 06:31 PM
drmigit2
Dec 14 2014, 06:26 PM
Freljord won the tournament, which works even better for us. If we can ambush Ionia, the Frejlord will be in no position to resist our demands. I say our first objective is to secure our army, then we ambush Ionia, wiping out their forces. Once we do this, we block off Yosoth and demand access to the nexus. Our army will be unstoppable, and Bilgewater will have no intention of doing jack squat about it, assuming they stay neutral.
Would Bilgewater pass up the opportunity to gain favor by teaming up with Freljord against us? Because we summoned Aatrox, the League would likely offer rewards to people who stop us.
They would be stupid to. Freljord is in a position to win the arc now, if Bilge helps the Freljord they would shoot themselves in the foot. They COULD offer some aid, but doing so would be silly.
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RaptorAttacks
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Bilge is already not on good terms with both the Freljord, AND Ionia. I say we rush Ionia with out extremely buff military, then use our cleverly named undead samurai and ninjas (Skelenobi? Reveninja? Too Pokemon?) to block the path of the Freljord. EVEN IF Bilgewater helps, they cannot stand up to our truly, truly... sigh... OUTRAGEOUS military. They'll be forced to give us half the mainland, or suffer their doom. Hell, we could even end off the arc signing into the Shadoxuan Alliance... or, something much, much greater... DISCORD! MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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RednaxelaKor
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If that is the case, I agree. Ionia must fall.
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Kaynunot
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I feel like we should really wait until after we conquer Neritum and Daeyux before we commit to any one strategy after. It's cool to talk about but let's not get ahead of ourselves too much and possibly overcommit. After all, we don't know what kind of things the other Factions will get at their respective Islands, we need to be flexible now, more than ever, and adapt our strategy to our opponent's strengths and weaknesses.
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Xero the Emperor
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Dec 14 2014, 10:10 AM
I totally just came up with one crazy ass plan. If we do manage to get into Yoroth, we hold the Mega-Nexus hostage. We used our option of speaking to the dead to learn more about the cataclysm and what caused the Mega-Nexus to fail; we could, presumably, use that knowledge to make the Mega-Nexus Explode. Getting something to blow up would be easier than trying to fix it, and with the knowledge from the cataclysm we should know exactly what is wrong with the Mega-Nexus.

We wouldn't just blow the Nexus up, but, like I said, hold it hostage. We place our armies around it and tell the faction who wins the arc, whoever they may be, that if they want us to not blow up the Nexus, which would potentially destroy what was left of Nyroth, they have to split the arc-winning rewards with us.

This is one crazy ass plan, and I'm not even sure if I would support it if it became an option, but it would allow us to actually make gains equal to that of winning an arc if we did it successfully.
So we evolve from the arc "Bad Guys" to straight up terrorists? I like, I like.
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Xero the Emperor
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So after we take Neritum and Daeyux I think we should definitely ambush one of the armies. I'm thinking Bilgewater but I'm up for anyone else too. Then we block the path to Yoroth and if we are refused we take the other two factions on. If we lose we take the terrorist option. (How many undead does it take to blow up a nexus anyway?)
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If we want to crush someone while they are alone, i think it has to be bilge since they are the only one who got a big enough army to oppose us. If we win that we can pretty much go unopposed, unless some npc armies show up to give them a chance at winning.
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Skoonie
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Dec 14 2014, 06:45 PM
I feel like we should really wait until after we conquer Neritum and Daeyux before we commit to any one strategy after. It's cool to talk about but let's not get ahead of ourselves too much and possibly overcommit. After all, we don't know what kind of things the other Factions will get at their respective Islands, we need to be flexible now, more than ever, and adapt our strategy to our opponent's strengths and weaknesses.
Have to agree here. We have to get Daeyux and Neritum first and foremost to bolster our forces. We might also find some ancient magics or something from these victories that will give us an additional edge, though I highly doubt it. After that, our options open up a bit. Ignoring "Operation: Blow the Fuck Outta Dat Nexus", which stands to lose us far more than we'd gain (sanctions and potential resources if the entire island sinks), our choices seem to boil down to:

1. Ambush an opposing army (current consenus is on either Bilge, which poses the biggest threat against us, as well as taking away the 3 islands they control; and Ionia, because morality is the very antithesis of what we stand for. And books.) to weaken them and potentially taking away what they've gained from the arc.

2. Block off the passage to Yoroth, preventing Frel from entering and forcing them to sign a treaty that favors us.


I'm more inclined to ambush Bilgewater, but there's some weight in Plan B as well. I think a compromise between the two plans is our best option: We ambush Ionia, who would be the most likely to aid Freljord in a fight. Then, after either forcing Frel to back off with our larger army or just outright eliminating them, we strike a deal with Bilge to sign over half the mainland to us, cutting our losses as we'll probably lose some men fighting both Ionia and Frel while Bilge will still be ready for a fight.

Thoughts? Also, can someone link me the results of our soujurn into Nertum? I didn't see it at all in the Nyroth recaps I read.
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Dec 15 2014, 04:28 AM
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Dec 14 2014, 06:45 PM
I feel like we should really wait until after we conquer Neritum and Daeyux before we commit to any one strategy after. It's cool to talk about but let's not get ahead of ourselves too much and possibly overcommit. After all, we don't know what kind of things the other Factions will get at their respective Islands, we need to be flexible now, more than ever, and adapt our strategy to our opponent's strengths and weaknesses.
Have to agree here. We have to get Daeyux and Neritum first and foremost to bolster our forces. We might also find some ancient magics or something from these victories that will give us an additional edge, though I highly doubt it. After that, our options open up a bit. Ignoring "Operation: Blow the Fuck Outta Dat Nexus", which stands to lose us far more than we'd gain (sanctions and potential resources if the entire island sinks), our choices seem to boil down to:

1. Ambush an opposing army (current consenus is on either Bilge, which poses the biggest threat against us, as well as taking away the 3 islands they control; and Ionia, because morality is the very antithesis of what we stand for. And books.) to weaken them and potentially taking away what they've gained from the arc.

2. Block off the passage to Yoroth, preventing Frel from entering and forcing them to sign a treaty that favors us.


I'm more inclined to ambush Bilgewater, but there's some weight in Plan B as well. I think a compromise between the two plans is our best option: We ambush Ionia, who would be the most likely to aid Freljord in a fight. Then, after either forcing Frel to back off with our larger army or just outright eliminating them, we strike a deal with Bilge to sign over half the mainland to us, cutting our losses as we'll probably lose some men fighting both Ionia and Frel while Bilge will still be ready for a fight.

Thoughts? Also, can someone link me the results of our soujurn into Nertum? I didn't see it at all in the Nyroth recaps I read.
i think bilge can rival our army strength right now especially with the matches, so if they team up with anyone im not sure we can have a chance. that is why i think we should try to get them down a notch before we try any power-play where the 3 faction can team up (And oh they will when we go final boss again).
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Im down with Big Mikes plan I also think that maybe instead of yoroth we could go straight from our islands to stormhaven and make it so the armies at stormhaven have no way of returning back to valoran. Also I'm happy to see people approve of the undead community and sentient undead idea =D
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