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So the results are in
Topic Started: Dec 27 2014, 10:50 AM (3,111 Views)
ShadowKnight1224
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Every day is Lissandra Appreciation Day
You can consider that as thematically appropriate, given that one of the themes in literature regarding the undead is their inability to grow and change. They are trapped in stasis, and so it is only befitting that none of their endeavours bear the fruit of change.
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TerraBooma
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You know I'm pretty sure those islands are corpses because you killed people

just saying
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AbiwonKenabi
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TerraBooma
Dec 28 2014, 01:16 PM
You know I'm pretty sure those islands are corpses because you killed people

just saying
To be fair, only ONE of those islands they killed everybody. The other one already had undead on it.

Also, I do like the "stasis" point ShadowKnight brought up.
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Wizard996
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TerraBooma
Dec 28 2014, 01:16 PM
You know I'm pretty sure those islands are corpses because you killed people

just saying
At least Neritum is. Daeyux was already full of undead, but the Isles just went to Neritum to murder everyone as a clean up afterwards. Shame that they couldn't use the nexus, would have pretty interested in seeing how they would handle it.
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Kaynunot
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Kuronan Estimare, Psionic Psion of House Estimare
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Dec 28 2014, 10:52 AM
Kuronan
Dec 27 2014, 10:36 PM
I'm more like 'Bilgewater has enough shit already' considering they own like 5 of the 10 islands. 1 belong to Ionia, 1 belongs to Frejlord, 2 belong to SI and 1 belongs to the Institute. At this point you own like half of the rewards from the arc, forgetting you managed to smash our army twice. I think it'd be better if Ionia or Frejlord won the Arc, Bilgewater's already going to make out like Bandits.
I read that as "I belong to Ionia", and I was like, wow, did SI pawn you off?

And I think you're right. Bilgewater already controls most of the islands. (And if you think about it, isn't that appropriate?) Meanwhile, the Freljord controls the nexus, and under Lissandra's wise and compassionate leadership I'm sure that's for the best.
I don't think Ionia would be interested in buying me even if I had no attached price tag CupcakeTrap ^.^' I'd be too invested in inspiring a rebellion against the Elder Council and/or admiring Syndra.

Yea, Bilgewater owning most of the Islands is, in a sense, appropriate though the Snowballing Military Mechanic was... Well, I think I don't need to repeat that was a nightmare for everyone involved. I think the islands weren't Balanced Out though, everything seemed tailored to the faction so like 3 islands were perfect for SI, 1 for Frejlord, 1 for Ionia and like 5 for Bilgewater. While that is cool in a sense, I think the islands should have been more balanced, like 2 tailored to each faction and 2 that aren't specifically in anyone's favor.
drmigit2
Dec 28 2014, 12:50 PM
And the Shadow Isles controls a few islands full of corpses. Wow we really got absolutely nothing accomplished this arc. Looking back, that's kind of disappointing.
Yea, if you don't mind Cupcake, I'd like to be there when we reformulate Military so maybe we can make the Gauntlet of Krius more useful than 'Oh hey, another Military Unit!' I mean, we gave up Syndra for a 10 Strength Military Unit, so I'd like to make sure our INVESTMENT actually did something and we didn't just tell the most powerful Sorceress in all of Runeterra and second most powerful Mage 'Alive' to piss off without a really good reason.
Edited by Kaynunot, Dec 28 2014, 02:13 PM.
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Sodaman64
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TerraBooma
Dec 28 2014, 11:59 AM
Hey I hear Desmaya really wants to talk to Lissandra

and you guys know that she's just the greatest

the best

we should all love Desmaya
Desmaya is love

Desmaya is life

Praise be to Desmaya
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Tofuology
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Nya Nya~
Honestly, when we look at World Systems, I feel like Ionia didn't really accomplish much. Sure, we revived the Kinkou, and almost completed Clockwork Monastery, but we didn't really do much (this is because of how bad we've been doing). We really didn't do much when compared to Bilge, when they've completed so many research and industry projects. I'm glad that Ionia was able to win, but I wish we could have done more (project-wise).
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RaptorAttacks
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RIP in Pepperoni's Shadow Isles.
Never playing as you again. You tried to lure me in with promises of Nocturne, then you kicked us in the balls, gave us a massive army, then had pirates kill the army. I knew we should of gone after the King Crab.
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Kaynunot
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Dec 28 2014, 04:31 PM
Honestly, when we look at World Systems, I feel like Ionia didn't really accomplish much.
RaptorAttacks
Dec 28 2014, 08:56 PM
RIP in Pepperoni's Shadow Isles.
Never playing as you again. You tried to lure me in with promises of Nocturne, then you kicked us in the balls, gave us a massive army, then had pirates kill the army. I knew we should of gone after the King Crab.
You have two projects done, we have one done so late it actually has very little impact and our armies got obliterated on Krocylea, we only finished this project because we had to seal the Void Rift and got massive bonuses for doing that and spent them all on Research. After Krocylea and the Island Revisits we are promised a Massacre at Stormhaven that turned into our armies (almost) getting Nuked, Again. You also Won The Arc and have a long-term boost to your Espionage stat at 70, that's more than Zaun has and is equal to Bandle City, so forgive me if I'm inclined to Strongly Disagree with that sentiment.
Edited by Kaynunot, Dec 28 2014, 10:07 PM.
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TerraBooma
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Wait what


hold on a sec there


BANDLE CITY HAS 70 ESPIONAGE?
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Betrayordles are sneaky little brats.
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Kaynunot
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TerraBooma
Dec 28 2014, 10:10 PM
Wait what

hold on a sec there

BANDLE CITY HAS 70 ESPIONAGE?
CrazyMLC
Dec 28 2014, 10:15 PM
Betrayordles are sneaky little brats.
I think the main boost was from them getting the Mothership flying and building a Moon Base, so Bandle City can observe all of the City-States from above and give their Operatives a pretty good play-by-play of Patrols, when someone important is around, etc. Yordles are also smaller than humans so they sneak around better.
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Sexy Soraka
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A delicious porkchop.
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Dec 27 2014, 10:36 PM
Sodaman64
Dec 27 2014, 09:21 PM
I feel like it's going to end up being one faction winning by about 3 points at this rate. This arc actually ended up being much closer then people thought it would.

I can still hear the cries of "BILGE OP" from the start of the arc.
I'm more like 'Bilgewater has enough shit already' considering they own like 5 of the 10 islands. 1 belong to Ionia, 1 belongs to Frejlord, 2 belong to SI and 1 belongs to the Institute. At this point you own like half of the rewards from the arc, forgetting you managed to smash our army twice. I think it'd be better if Ionia or Frejlord won the Arc, Bilgewater's already going to make out like Bandits.
Classic Kuronan.
We got all that stuff because we earned it, if we had won the arc it was because we worked hard and earned it ourselves. Second place is still nice, and like you said before, we got lots of stuff acomplished. Stop being salty biased, please.
Edited by Sexy Soraka, Dec 29 2014, 02:47 AM.
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Kaynunot
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Dec 29 2014, 02:38 AM
I'm more like 'Bilgewater has enough shit already' considering they own like 5 of the 10 islands. 1 belong to Ionia, 1 belongs to Frejlord, 2 belong to SI and 1 belongs to the Institute. At this point you own like half of the rewards from the arc, forgetting you managed to smash our army twice. I think it'd be better if Ionia or Frejlord won the Arc, Bilgewater's already going to make out like Bandits.
Classic Kuronan.
We got all that stuff because we earned it, if we had won the arc it was because we worked hard and earned it ourselves. Second place is still nice, and like you said before, we got lots of stuff acomplished. Stop being salty biased, please.
Yes, you did earn it, through Featured Matches, which everyone knows Bilgewater has been really good at the whole arc. Even before we sent the initial emmisaries and actually started the arc Bilgewater has been dominating their Featured Matches. You have also had a very dominant place on the Balance Of Power, keeping a very firm grip on first or second place respectively. You have gotten no end to your Favor pools and managed to complete three projects at this point, compared to us who have only finished one project and with no long-lasting effect on any of our stats I think I have more than a little right to be salty considering how your place in the arc has literally been a giant snowball into infinity.
Edited by Kaynunot, Dec 29 2014, 03:40 AM.
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StormRevolver
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pls just not the we earned it argument again. it was the same after hextech. Its a lot easier to earn stuff when you got most of the veteran summoners on your side.
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Rextreff
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Hoy, small fry
Please not the "please not the "we earned it arugment"" arugment. We earned it because we won most of the featured matches and most of the other matches as well. Bilgewater was probabilisticly the luckiest and still only got second place in the arc. (the unluckiest faction got first) Shadow Isle's place is from losing basically everything. It's not anyone else's fault that the Isles did so bad
Edited by Rextreff, Dec 29 2014, 04:50 AM.
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Kaynunot
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Dec 29 2014, 04:46 AM
Please not the "please not the "we earned it argument"" argument. We earned it because we won most of the featured matches and most of the other matches as well. Bilgewater was probabilisticly the luckiest and still only got second place in the arc. (the unluckiest faction got first) Shadow Isle's place is from losing basically everything. It's not anyone else's fault that the Isles did so bad
Yea, this argument would be a whole lot less valid if it wasn't clear by now how much we'd been losing the arc, and how despite the times we legitimately did try to practice, it went horribly because A) We can't practice for shit outside of Factions due to how weak the Shadow Isles actually are for any comp compared to a Full Meta Comp, or B) The factions we practice against get practice against us and, surprise surprise, there's no net gain to be had-especially if we lose.

It didn't help that until almost a week after release we still didn't have Kalista-pretty much the only Shadow Isles Champion you can call a Marksman with the passive you need to practice to make use of and the Ult your Support needs to practice with to even understand how to use-and until that point we had to rely on Urgot bully top lane to farm into hell, or hope to god our summoners closed the game fast because a Full AP Team doesn't scale for shit, Hecarim doesn't go into the Late Game, Nocturne needs to build damage to do damage-Pretty much any of our Champions are Mid Game champions. And if they don't have an awesome early game to scale into mid game by the time they hit that spike their opponents are already at End-Game and we can't do SHIT.

Wanna talk about how any relevant bonuses we get in PVP almost automatically turn against us due to our shitty Featured Match history? How about our inability to do things besides hit people over the head with a Rusty Sword according to World Systems? You wanna talk about how Bilgewater, with their RNGesus on Argyue, somehow snowballed a lucky military victory into an army so big it fucking eclipses us-the devoted military power-to the point we have to Beg for a revote because we were told your military was at like 63 to our 120 and CupcakeTrap did a last minute recalculation and would have had us go into a Kamikaze War with you guys APPARENTLY being 160?

I think we need to address just how much Power the Balance of Power actually gives and takes away...
Edited by Kaynunot, Dec 29 2014, 05:30 AM.
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Dec 29 2014, 04:46 AM
Please not the "please not the "we earned it arugment"" arugment. We earned it because we won most of the featured matches and most of the other matches as well. Bilgewater was probabilisticly the luckiest and still only got second place in the arc. (the unluckiest faction got first) Shadow Isle's place is from losing basically everything. It's not anyone else's fault that the Isles did so bad
this is just plain stupid and you didnt even looked at what i wrote.
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Vespertinity
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Dec 29 2014, 05:07 AM
Wanna talk about how any relevant bonuses we get in PVP almost automatically turn against us due to our shitty Featured Match history? How about our inability to do things besides hit people over the head with a Rusty Sword according to World Systems? You wanna talk about how Bilgewater, with their RNGesus on Argyue, somehow snowballed a lucky military victory into an army so big it fucking eclipses us-the devoted military power-to the point we have to Beg for a revote because we were told your military was at like 63 to our 120 and CupcakeTrap did a last minute recalculation and would have had us go into a Kamikaze War with you guys APPARENTLY being 160?
Awwww, did your attempt to massacre every man, woman and child in our port backfire? Didn't get to commit horrible atrocities unopposed? I'll go get my tiny violin.
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Yeah, so remember that comment about keeping the saltiness down? I feel like everyone needs to take a breath.

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