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Kassadin's daughter will be league's Luke Skywalker
Topic Started: Feb 4 2015, 04:35 PM (1,717 Views)
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Kassadin already looks and sounds like Darth Vader, that is known. His daughter was also taken by, and probably brainwashed by the Void. When she finally realizes that the Void's main opposition is her father, she will act exactly like Luke did when he found out that Vader was his father. Except that this time the father is on the good side and not the bad.

Kassadin is Light Vader. His daughter will be League's Luke skywalker, and Helmet Bro will be her Obi Wan (yes helmet will die... again).
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AbiwonKenabi
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This is something kind of nit-picky but..."Darth" is a title and does not equal "Dark". Like I hate when people call Darth Vader "Darth" because I really badly just want to be like "Which one? Darth Maul? Darth Sidious?"

Anyways, I'm not sure, I guess that could be a cool concept. I always imagined Kassadin's daughter would be completely warped and her mind beyond repair, so we would get this tragic story of a girl lost in the Void, trying to claw her way back and the father who couldn't save her (yet still tries desperately to do so). She's mostly just a monster, but Kassadin can't bring himself to kill his (presumably) only daughter.
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Guys I thought we went over this.

Rek'sai is Kassadin's Daughter duh.
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XalkXolc
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"Vater" is "Father" in German. Fun facts are fun.
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LordHippoman
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Luke Skywalker exists, though, whereas Kassadin's daughter seems doomed to float in the hellhole of "minor characters mentioned once" for all eternity, alongside Zelos and girl from Alistar's lore.
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Feb 5 2015, 04:09 AM
Luke Skywalker exists, though, whereas Kassadin's daughter seems doomed to float in the hellhole of "minor characters mentioned once" for all eternity, alongside Zelos and girl from Alistar's lore.
Hey you know about Durand right? You know the genius demacian inventer who builds over a 100 golems for Demacia, and whose inventions wee so powerful that they doced Noxus had to send assassins to finish him off. Yeah, he is mentioned once.
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Feb 5 2015, 04:42 AM
LordHippoman
Feb 5 2015, 04:09 AM
Luke Skywalker exists, though, whereas Kassadin's daughter seems doomed to float in the hellhole of "minor characters mentioned once" for all eternity, alongside Zelos and girl from Alistar's lore.
Hey you know about Durand right? You know the genius demacian inventer who builds over a 100 golems for Demacia, and whose inventions wee so powerful that they doced Noxus had to send assassins to finish him off. Yeah, he is mentioned once.
Three Words: Marcus Du Couteau
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Well, Lissandra used to be among that number of minor characters, and yet she made it after I believe when the Great Retcon Plan began. She's now a well-known, beloved character in her own right, so I still have hope for some of the others.
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Feb 5 2015, 07:00 AM
Three Words: Marcus Du Couteau
I'm really surprised this received no follow-up. Sure, Zelos and Durand were important to their Champions, the same way Lilith is important to Ryze, but Marcus directly affects 5 Champions (Katarina, Talon, Cassiopeia, Swain, LeBlanc) and had a Cameo in the Journal of Justice (albeit a short one) Most Noxian roleplayers I talk with agree if he came back he'd shake the living hell out of Noxian Politics as we know them and yet we hear nothing...
Edited by Kaynunot, Feb 5 2015, 01:09 PM.
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Feb 5 2015, 01:08 PM
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Feb 5 2015, 07:00 AM
Three Words: Marcus Du Couteau
I'm really surprised this received no follow-up. Sure, Zelos and Durand were important to their Champions, the same way Lilith is important to Ryze, but Marcus directly affects 5 Champions (Katarina, Talon, Cassiopeia, Swain, LeBlanc) and had a Cameo in the Journal of Justice (albeit a short one) Most Noxian roleplayers I talk with agree if he came back he'd shake the living hell out of Noxian Politics as we know them and yet we hear nothing...
My guess is that he was originally planned to come back as a champion, but you never know. It would also explain why he is never written about, they don't know what he will be when fully developed so they don't write much lore about him.

I have a bad feeling though that he disappeared with the league retcon.
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Marcus DuCoteau is not a real character, he's a plot device. He's always there to justify some part of a champion's background or to further/inspire the plot of a mini-story.
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He COULD have been a character. Much like Lissandra used to just be a plot device to pit Sejuani and Ashe against one another, so too is Marcus. If he's involved with so many champions, it just feels like a great opportunity space to come up with an interesting character and great stories. Not only could he himself achieve great depth but so could the champions he has affected. By knowing what philosophy and ideals Marcus follows, we learn more about the generation he has taught, or about the characters he opposes. Although, you're right, that's all he is right now: opportunity space.

Sadly, as Warden said, I suspect that--much like in his backstory--he has vanished, this time for good. Damn you Riot and your Great Retcon! Stop wasting story potential!
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Lots of these characters are just those that have been inserted into stories as plot devices. That doesn't mean Riot won't come back and go, hey, this plot device character seems like they'd be a good fit for this kit I've been working on, etc etc. They're keeping their options open.
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The problem is that they don't actually bother fleshing out their plot device characters. Lissandra's background says very little about her as a person and more about the backstory of the Freljord. She seems to be a somewhat stereotyped villain with unclear goals that's there just to flesh out other characters, pretty much like a plot device. I'm sure if Marcus DuCoteau got turned into a champion, he'd be given Darius-like generic quotes about Noxian strength and the Noxian Way, and a background that's just there to flesh out some other part of Valoran (probably Noxus).

I am willing to give Riot some faith because the Azir/Xerath stories were actually really cool insights on the actual personalities of the champions and the formative events in their lives, but so far I feel their plot device characters typically remain underdeveloped.
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Can we get back to Darth Kassadin and the question of which Void champion would be Palpatine (I am thing either Malz, Cho, or Vel). Rek'sai would be the rancor
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Definitely Malz. He is more naturally creepy than Vel, and I'm not going to consider Cho for Palpatine in the respect that he likely would have a higher probability of solving negotiations with murder than words (not saying Vel and Malz wouldn't, but unless it's Gentleman Cho, they're more likely to attack psychologically and hold reasonable conversations). Vel'koz is far too calculating and dissection happy to be Palpatine, who was all about manipulating others from the shadows until his reveal, where he used others to devastating effect. Of course, the Death Star IS a giant laser, which suits Vel, but the spooky robed figure in the chair suits Malz better overall.
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Feb 5 2015, 05:50 PM
Definitely Malz. He is more naturally creepy than Vel, and I'm not going to consider Cho for Palpatine in the respect that he likely would have a higher probability of solving negotiations with murder than words (not saying Vel and Malz wouldn't, but unless it's Gentleman Cho, they're more likely to attack psychologically and hold reasonable conversations). Vel'koz is far too calculating and dissection happy to be Palpatine, who was all about manipulating others from the shadows until his reveal, where he used others to devastating effect. Of course, the Death Star IS a giant laser, which suits Vel, but the spooky robed figure in the chair suits Malz better overall.
Cho would make for a great General Grievous though, they both love to fight and are terrifying sights on the battlefield. Yes, Kha6 did adapt himself like Grievous (though Greivous was somewhat forced into his) but kha is more of an assassin and not a general. I know that Luke and Greivous never existed at the same time, but this is league Star Wars where Vader is good. Besides, who wouldn't want to see a fight between Greivous and Vader, or Cho and Kass. Greivous was a great character in the comics and cartoon but his scenes in the movie wasted a lot of potential.

Vel would probably have to be his own character, since no one from Star Wars really fits his personality.


I realized that Teemo would be perfect as this versions Jar Jar Binks. Don't piss this one off though.

Han Solo would also need to be a champion (cause solo is always necessary). Jax or Twisted Fate could play this role well.
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I'd say Twisted Fate for his smooth talking (though Han didn't have that all the time (12 parsecs anyone?), but he could use the suave-ness the con man has to offer).
I never really read the comics, and my memory of the 3rd movie is fuzzy at best, but Grevious could have been more. I fucking LOVE darthsanddroids version of him. A maniac obsessed with his cyborg army, and one of the best characters in the webcomic. Seriously, even if you don't give a damn about Star Wars, it makes literally the entire series into an ongoing D&D-esque game. Movies 1-4 are complete, and 5 is at the ending scenes (the Vader reveal). No, I'm not getting paid to advertise, but that is like the best webcomic I've read.
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Well, I am now reading an additional webcomic. My webcomics folder on the bookmarks bar is getting a little crowded...
Edited by XalkXolc, Feb 5 2015, 10:42 PM.
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Feb 5 2015, 08:14 PM
I'd say Twisted Fate for his smooth talking (though Han didn't have that all the time (12 parsecs anyone?), but he could use the suave-ness the con man has to offer).
Well that makes Graves the LoL equivalent of Boba Fett... Although I gotta question the whole 'Frozen in Carbonite' part of it. Now who's Jabba The Hutt?
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