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@Cupcake; apparently these are a thing now
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Topic Started: Mar 21 2015, 12:44 AM (787 Views)
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Rextreff
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Mar 21 2015, 12:44 AM
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Hoy, small fry
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How much time did you spend playing Mass Effect instead of doing the world systems revision
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Mar 21 2015, 03:28 AM
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Mass Effect is a fairly good game I don't think there's any reason to call him out on playing it.
Also the world systems revision is on a lot of people's shoulders who also neglect it more than they should, myself included.
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Sexy Soraka
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Mar 21 2015, 04:31 AM
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A delicious porkchop.
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Delete this thread.
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Mar 21 2015, 09:01 AM
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- CrazyMLC
- Mar 21 2015, 03:28 AM
Mass Effect is a fairly good game I don't think there's any reason to call him out on playing it.
Also the world systems revision is on a lot of people's shoulders who also neglect it more than they should, myself included. Haha, it's okay. I think it was just a reference to the Irelia joke in the schedule for today's matches.
I haven't actually been playing Mass Effect, though. The Mass Effect 3 ending forever traumatized me.
As for World Systems, I've kind of turned that over to the World Systems team for now, so that I can try to focus on lore and getting that team together. I think Naggarok's very busy, but there are others.
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Mar 21 2015, 12:06 PM
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Research and Devlelopment
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ME3 original ending was essentially saying im glad you gave us all your time and money now look at these pretty colors.
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Mar 21 2015, 01:05 PM
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Hoy, small fry
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I've only played Mass Effect 3 with the director's cut or whatever it's called. The thing I was upset at is that station that makes Shepard not look seriosuly ugly cost like 50,000 platinum didn't work.
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Mar 21 2015, 02:55 PM
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Invoker
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The canon ending to Mass Effect 3 is the Citadel DLC and I will accept no substitutes. The series ends with Grunt in the shower mumbling about "the clowns".
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Mar 21 2015, 05:01 PM
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The canon ending to Mass Effect 3 is the Citadel DLC and I will accept no substitutes. The series ends with Grunt in the shower mumbling about "the clowns". Spoilers ahead.
Spoiler: click to toggle The problem with the SpaceBaby ending is that it comes out of nowhere and tries to completely subvert the preceding trilogy's storyline with a quiiiiirrrrrrrkkkyyyyyy new twist. It's a terrible, terrible storytelling decision. It's especially problematic because it comes off as someone's clumsy attempt to write fancy cosmic science fiction, whereas Mass Effect is, at its core, an utterly conventional (and deeply compelling) "soldier's story". If you want sci-fi that contemplates the galactic life cycle or whatever, read Iain M. Banks, maybe starting with Consider Phlebas. If you just want thoughtful sci-fi, read Richard K. Morgan's Altered Carbon. Mass Effect is not that. Mass Effect is a story about some Big Damn Heroes fighting through an action movie plot with some cool sci-fi elements worked in. The SpaceBaby ending broke the narrative frame. That might sound like a compliment. It's not. It's an amateur move, trying so hard to be clever and original that you destroy the core of the story. It's like showing Saving Private Ryan and then cutting to part of a Cosmos episode. It doesn't work. People warned me about the ending, but I thought they were exaggerating. I assumed that the problem was that it was a dumb ending, or that it left too many loose ends. I really had no clue it would be quite that bad. It soured the entire narrative experience for me. And as for a specific critique, it came off as this heavyhanded insistence that you do one of three horrible things. In a series that's all about choice and decisionmaking, it was really poor form for them to constrict your final choices like that. The inclusion of the fourth ending was downright petulant. More succinctly:  So yeah. I've never hated an ending so passionately. My headcanon ending for the series is this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emUO7xE22mYThat's the right conclusion. It stays in the frame, and values the story as a whole over a desire for novelty. It recognizes that in many ways Mass Effect 3 is itself one big ending. The weight of all those endings stacking atop one another is immense as you come to the conclusion. You and your mentor, one step from being your dad, sit beside one another, badly wounded. (You can imagine your dad. Or a mentor who means a lot to you. Or just your best friend. Whatever. The substitution is easy.) In the end, it came down to the two of you, fighting your way through a fortress to secure the final victory, culminating in a gunfight with a madman who shot your friend before you took him down. You've won. After so much sacrifice, you've won. The galaxy's civilizations have come together and broken the cycle. But your friend is fading. You plead with him to hold on, to please just live long enough to see the end at last, but he can't. He dies beside you. You stare out through the viewscreen as the fireworks start up. It's over. BAM. ROLL CREDITS. NO SPACEBABIES. ROLL THE DAMN CREDITS. And then maybe tack on the Citadel DLC as an epilogue.
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Mar 21 2015, 05:06 PM
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Lightning Ball goes Boom
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- LordHippoman
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The canon ending to Mass Effect 3 is the Citadel DLC and I will accept no substitutes. The series ends with Grunt in the shower mumbling about "the clowns".
Spoilers ahead. Spoiler: click to toggle The problem with the SpaceBaby ending is that it comes out of nowhere and tries to completely subvert the preceding trilogy's storyline with a quiiiiirrrrrrrkkkyyyyyy new twist. It's a terrible, terrible storytelling decision. It's especially problematic because it comes off as someone's clumsy attempt to write fancy cosmic science fiction, whereas Mass Effect is, at its core, an utterly conventional (and deeply compelling) "soldier's story". If you want sci-fi that contemplates the galactic life cycle or whatever, read Iain M. Banks, maybe starting with Consider Phlebas. If you just want thoughtful sci-fi, read Richard K. Morgan's Altered Carbon. Mass Effect is not that. Mass Effect is a story about some Big Damn Heroes fighting through an action movie plot with some cool sci-fi elements worked in. The SpaceBaby ending broke the narrative frame. That might sound like a compliment. It's not. It's an amateur move, trying so hard to be clever and original that you destroy the core of the story. It's like showing Saving Private Ryan and then cutting to part of a Cosmos episode. It doesn't work. People warned me about the ending, but I thought they were exaggerating. I assumed that the problem was that it was a dumb ending, or that it left too many loose ends. I really had no clue it would be quite that bad. It soured the entire narrative experience for me. And as for a specific critique, it came off as this heavyhanded insistence that you do one of three horrible things. In a series that's all about choice and decisionmaking, it was really poor form for them to constrict your final choices like that. The inclusion of the fourth ending was downright petulant. More succinctly:  So yeah. I've never hated an ending so passionately. My headcanon ending for the series is this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emUO7xE22mYThat's the right conclusion. It stays in the frame, and values the story as a whole over a desire for novelty. It recognizes that in many ways Mass Effect 3 is itself one big ending. The weight of all those endings stacking atop one another is immense as you come to the conclusion. You and your mentor, one step from being your dad, sit beside one another, badly wounded. You've won. After so much sacrifice, you've won. The galaxy's civilizations have come together and broken the cycle. But your friend is fading. You plead with him to hold on, to please just live long enough to see the end at last, but he can't. He dies beside you. You stare out through the viewscreen as the fireworks start up. It's over. BAM. ROLL CREDITS. NO SPACEBABIES. ROLL THE DAMN CREDITS. And then maybe tack on the Citadel DLC as an epilogue. That picture sums it up for me. "But I don't WANT to kill all synthetics!" "TOO BAD, KID."
I was one of the apologists, too. I didn't outright hate the ending at first, and I still don't HATE it. However, after looking back at it, I see all of its flaws much more clearly. It's just...a lot less than I expected from BioWare. It's not up to standard.
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