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Next Arc Starting; When is the next arc starting.
Topic Started: Mar 24 2015, 10:36 AM (947 Views)
Crzymstrbkwrm876
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Pretty much what the title says. I know that we still have a lot of work to do before the next arc can start, but do we have a general idea about when it will start? Or what it will be about?
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501st Big Mike
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With the loresplosion being finished, the next arc should be soon. I've talked with Cupcake and we are considering starting up the voting for the factions who will appear in the next arc.
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As far as I know a few things are still in process, like World Systems, but I wouldn't be surprised if the next arc started some time next month. There'll probably be a push for things to get done after whatever april fools event Riot has planned, since everyone will be distracted by that in the meantime.
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Naggarok
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You think Nyroth ever will be over? Hell, we haven't gotten past Hextech Revolution.

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More seriously, I would expect the final lore to go up. Following that, the final lore event and the votes for the next arc's factions to go up roughly at the same time. While voting is going on those two, world systems/featured/whathaveyou will be finalized for next arc. After that's all done and teh votes are tallied, final lore for Nyroth and the beginning lore for arc VII. Then the arc may begin.

Or at least that's what I think will happen.
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GODDAMMIT I NEVER ACTUALLY REVISED ALL THAT HEXTECH LORE.

I mean, uh. You saw nothing.

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Hello! This is the first line of text in this post!

I'm speaking somewhat off the cuff here, but hopefully this helps. Let's start with what we'd need before the "vote for the next factions" poll could go up.

  • We need to finish Nyroth's lore. That should happen by the end of this week. We're currently working on Loresplosion II (Updates 11 through 15). Next up will be 16 through 20. I've recruited a bunch of people to work on lore during the Intermission, and we're making good progress. Some lore updates may be very short, like Korag, but I think that's okay.
  • Once Nyroth's lore is done, i.e. sometime this weekend, we'll finish Lore Event VI and find out what happens to Nyroth based on what the factions did.
  • The other major thing we need to have in place are faction rosters, so that people have some clue about what Champions would be involved. These need revision. Perhaps we should assemble a team for that.


We could then post the poll to decide the next arc. I think it'd be reasonable to allow at least a couple weeks for voting; it's meant to be a broad, community-wide vote. Ideally, we could spend those two weeks finishing up World Systems, extra lore (like the Herald), and other such housekeeping.

I think we're looking at sometime in mid-April, but I want to keep it moving and I want to keep the community involved as we progress, so it's not just "we vanish for a month, then appear out of nowhere with a new arc".

I remain committed to not starting the next arc until preparation is complete. We are digging down to the foundations of Factions and sorting absolutely everything out. This is taking a lot of time. It will, however, allow us to not only have a lower-stress and superior next arc, but also to make future arcs much better. Like Riot, which has been jerry-rigging hacked-together indie source code for years, we've been working on some pretty shoddy foundations for a while now. After Nyroth, I decided it was time for us to clean house.

Everyone always wants the next arc to start quickly. That's understandable, and actually very good: it's a sign that people enjoy Factions. However, I encourage you to ask some veterans of Hextech Revolution or Nyroth how they felt about ad hoc rulings. Spoiler alert: they're awful, and they make me feel bad, and they should make me feel bad. Coin-toss decisions are always going to feel unfair. Of all the things I worry about, unfairness is near the top.

From the start, I've been encouraging staffers to recruit help where needed. Perhaps it's time for another big recruitment post. Factions is not produced by a company: it's produced by the community. We're all volunteers here, and I think that's actually a great source of strength.

tl;dr: I'd like to get the polls for the next arc's factions up by next weekend.
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With the nyroth lore did we ever find out what the final vote poll was?
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ShadowKnight1224
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I still have no clue if my bid for turning Nyroth into a land of True Ice was successful or if we're turning it into some fertile grasslands or something like that and letting Ionia and Bilgewater reap the fruits of our hard efforts.
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CupcakeTrap
Mar 24 2015, 12:01 PM
The other major thing we need to have in place are faction rosters, so that people have some clue about what Champions would be involved. These need revision. Perhaps we should assemble a team for that.

I remain committed to not starting the next arc until preparation is complete. We are digging down to the foundations of Factions and sorting absolutely everything out. This is taking a lot of time. It will, however, allow us to not only have a lower-stress and superior next arc, but also to make future arcs much better. Like Riot, which has been jerry-rigging hacked-together indie source code for years, we've been working on some pretty shoddy foundations for a while now. After Nyroth, I decided it was time for us to clean house.

Everyone always wants the next arc to start quickly. That's understandable, and actually very good: it's a sign that people enjoy Factions. However, I encourage you to ask some veterans of Hextech Revolution or Nyroth how they felt about ad hoc rulings. Spoiler alert: they're awful, and they make me feel bad, and they should make me feel bad. Coin-toss decisions are always going to feel unfair. Of all the things I worry about, unfairness is near the top.
Quite a few people have expressed concerns about the faction rosters, so I feel like a team for that is a good idea. I'm sure you'll get some sort of response.

As for getting fully ready before Arc VII, I fully support that decision. I'm actually enjoying the low-stress environment of Intermission about as much as Arc time, and getting everything ready to go is hugely important. Ad-hoc rulings caused too much frustration and salt recently.

Thanks for working all this out, CCT and staff. We know it's a lot of work to do in your free time.
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GIMMIE MY UNDEAD UTOPIA CUPCAKE OR SO HELP MEEE
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Mar 24 2015, 01:25 PM
GIMMIE MY UNDEAD UTOPIA CUPCAKE OR SO HELP MEEE
I seco- Excuse me! *Clears throat* I SECOND THIS MOTION!!!
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Crzymstrbkwrm876
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Zondervain
Mar 24 2015, 02:29 PM
silencermage
Mar 24 2015, 01:25 PM
GIMMIE MY UNDEAD UTOPIA CUPCAKE OR SO HELP MEEE
I seco- Excuse me! *Clears throat* I SECOND THIS MOTION!!!
I destroy this motion, and replace it with LETS HAVE A TRUE ICE LAND BABY ALL FOR LISSANDRA WHO WILL USE IT TO RULE THE WORLD FOR POLITE RESEARCH.
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The Freljord and Ionia decided to try to restore Nyroth to its pre-Cataclysm state. Beneath the jokes, though, I think what you're saying is "it feels sucky that Nyroth isn't showing any signs that it was US who fixed it."

While I'd need to run this by the rest of the lore team, I for one would fully endorse the Freljord leaving its mark even if it all goes "perfectly": maybe part of Nyroth turns arctic, for instance. And maybe some of the land occupied by SI will stay spooky.

Of course, we'll have to see what the dice say. There might not be much Nyrothian mainland left to argue about.
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ShadowKnight1224
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That would be very good, since our only island is A) already occupied, B) by a people we hold no domain over, and C) its biggest reward got betrayordle'd from us.

At this point I am thoroughly apathetic on what happens, since the Freljord got the absolute least rewards in the arc (even SI got a handful of islands), and maybe having Nyroth blow up will be the best outcome for us, relatively speaking.
Edited by ShadowKnight1224, Mar 24 2015, 06:32 PM.
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501st Big Mike
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ShadowKnight1224
Mar 24 2015, 06:31 PM
... its biggest reward got betrayordle'd from us.

... maybe having Nyroth blow up will be the best outcome for us, relatively speaking.
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Crzymstrbkwrm876
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If I give my soul to that same pact, will it increase the odds of coming true?
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I wasn't even referring to the islands per say =D I just want me smart undead hierarchy. I cant wait for the last poll that decides what a faction works on while its not in an arc
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501st Big Mike
Mar 24 2015, 07:35 PM
THE PACT IS MADE
Finally! I was beginning to think my vengeance ritual got lost in the mail!
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