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Vi Strategy Guide; Know anything about Vi? Share it here!
Topic Started: May 24 2015, 10:20 AM (485 Views)
Tofuology
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Reserved for Vi strategy/guide. Feel free to share anything that works for you!
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Kwon Ri Sae
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Dive in after we poke them down, not before :P
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TerraBooma
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Yaah...


Vi's pretty simple compared to some of the other roster eh
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Tofuology
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I'll try to write something up for Vi also, but I do want to say this.

If you are not proficient at her, and you are forced to jungle Vi, we need you to go mostly tanky. The full (or mostly) AD builds you're seeing in the FM's and stuff, that's only viable because the person doing it know what they're doing with Vi. They're able to take the raw power she has in her Q, and take an advantage of that. If you're unable to assert early game dominance, then there's really no point in you going full AD, just go tank. It'll be better for your team, since you can then serve as a peel for one of your carries.
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ShadowKnight1224
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Cleaverhulk build is great on Vi, tbh.
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heavyweapons guy
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As of right now I feel like going for a dmg vi build is better with our current roster. The reasoning is while she may last a bit longer as tank she has no one to dive buddy with her so it's better for her to just go ham and instantly take out someone in the backline with damage,
Some my suggestion for vi is basically, Warrior, Bruta, hex, tri, lw, sell bruta for probably either IE if you are bold or just go frozen mallet, finish hex, and boots is w.e. you prefer
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ShadowKnight1224
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Why not sell Brutaliser for Black Cleaver? It gives you more CDR, tank stats, and you still have the armour shred. Your Q+E+auto combo applies 3 stacks right off the bat, and your ult applies a fourth (and 20% armour shred is nothing to sneeze at).

The main problem would be the redundancy of Phage effects with TF, but I don't think it's that much of a gold waste.
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You could but I prefer the more raw burst power IE gives, or the Survivability from passive and the hp from Frozen mallet, also by the time you really even think about gettin rid of the bruta usually its late game and your ulti is gonna be up after every teamfight anyway because of timers
Edited by heavyweapons guy, Jun 1 2015, 01:20 PM.
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Yeah, but the idea would be that the BC passive helps your entire team (especially if we're running Jayce top). Vi can apply a stack of her passive as an AoE thanks to her E, and if Jayce gets one too, he can land an E+Q combo on some of the enemy team for more armour shred. And that's got to make it very easy for Cait/Ez to just take everyone out.

I don't know, I could be wrong, maybe I'm overhyping the BC passive, and it's not as applicable in practice.
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All right late at night and got nothing so I'm gonna write my first guide and of course its on full ad jungle VI, woops forgot skill order

Note this guide is all personal BIAS so don't take everything for 100% if you think you might have something better, bring it up

First things first Rune's and masteries

Runes

Red's 9x flat ad
Yellow 9x flat armor, though I might switch to a mixture of Armor and hp
Blue 9x Flat MR, some people run scaling MR but I just prefer the flat so I don't get bursted by some of the mages early on
Quints 3x ATS, the attacks speed just really helps out in clearing the jungle early and gives you a healthy clear as well as making the q auto e combo smoother (at least for me)

Masteries

21/9/0

offensive points into
4x Fury, 4X Sorcery- ats once again for more damage early, Cdr so that the q and R early on are not on as huge of a cd early
3x Brute force, this is just to lead into martial mastery for all the AD
Martial Master X1, Executioner X3, exec for the extra gank kill pressure and those last hits with the E range on minions when they flash away
1x Warlord, 1x Dangerous game, You can switch Devastating strikes for Warlord if you prefer I just like the Armor pen I get, Dangerous game is always great for the tower dives
3X Devastating Strikes, Armor pen mostly cause I enjoy it
1X Havoc, flat out just strong and great when your this deep in offensive

Defensive
2x Recovery, 1x Enchanted Armor, 2x Tough skin, more of a personal preference you can put point's into block if you want put always save 4 points
3x Veteran Scar, Free extra health and a bit more for you passive pretty sweet
1xJuggernaut/hardiness, This one is another prefrance one, I take Juggernaut cause I sometimes get FM, but hardiness can be nice early on as well

Jungle Path
Try to place a ward down at around 1:30 ish to make sure you don't get invaded, ward location varies by start but try to guess the path they might take
Your going to want to start at wherever bottom lane is for your leash so go to gromp/golems(krugs)
Take the buff your next to and now its time for choices
If you don't think you can get a early gank off Take wolves and wraiths before doing red if you think you can get a early gank off Run to red Smite it for the hp then take scuttle and go for a gank, if going for the gank place trinket either behind you if you got a faster clear or the bush infront of the path your taking incase you afraid of enemy jungle being there
After this back and depending on gold try to one of these sets
upgrade smite to Either Blue or Red based of preference (I don't really take purple often)
then either go for
2X longsword and ward(s) if possible
1x longsword 2 wards and a pink with remaining to pots so you can take an early drag
1x longsword OR 1x boots and rest into wards/pots
First option can usually only get if you got a kill off a gank or stayed a bit risky in jungle, also more offensive path to take if looking to carry
2nd option is for rushing a early drag which vi can do put it does put her low so pink for and wards for safety
3rd option is generally if you got a failed gank and are not as high of income are are probably looking for more farm at this point

Note to do with wards try to place on common gank paths or in enemy jungle on common routes for roaming, keep your lanes safe
vision saves lives

Skill Order

in jungle your skill order should go as follows
E,W,Q then Q max, as well as taking points in ulti when available Reasoning for this is because early on q doesn't do much in terms of clearing, also taking E first will give you a slightly slower but healthier clear because you are Proccing passive on the first camp and if you hold on to it at first buff as well
After Q I prefer to Max W then E, this is mostly for the greater armor shred and ATS speed given when proccing the W.


Build paths

First thing first COMPLETE UR DAMN JUNGLE ITEM OR I WILL FIND YOU Posted Image
Warrior is 134.1% gold efficient. So complete it (and boots of preference at this point as well)
though Cinderhulk is 71.4% gold efficient by itself and increases by 4.8% every 100 health. but it becomes efficent quickly so get it

After now it's time to go a bit deeper
If your like me your like me your just gonna grab another Brutalizer cause you love the item and the stats it gives (this step is skippable)
if not these are your paths (named by me of course)

the I Don't like that AP assassin
Hex,Phage->Tri,LW,Maw,Ie/FM- you basically just build the hex early cause you don't like that ap assassin killin you before you kill them

The triforce of power
Phage->sheen->Tri, hex, Lw, IE, Maw just a triforce rush path with your defensive item coming after, can trade out hex for somethin else I just don't find many other things more threatening than mages


The heavy
Bruta, Sheen->Tri, LW, IE, sell bruta, Hex -->Maw - Just love another bruta early of for its stats and then grab a sheen for the boost (sometimes switches for phage


They don't got no AP
Phage-->Tri, Giant belt, LW, Randuin, IE - They got no ap plain and simple trade out the defensive/offensive maw/hex for hp and armor

IF YOUR ARE BEHIND IT'S GENERALLY BEST TO SWITCH TO TANK UNLESS YOU FEEL THE NEED TO CARRY, A BRUISER THAT CAN SURVIVE IS BETTER THAN A ADC VI THAT DOES NOTHING,
this build path is generally for w.e. you need for tanking items to look for = Warmogs, Randuin, Spirit/Locket, Thornmail/Frozen heart. tanky stuff

Those are the build paths I usually follow, feel free to use your own if you have your own

"Combos"
aka plays you make with VI
The Flash Q
Ready up Q, Flash, hit enemy,auto, E reset to the face. generally this is a summoner trade or a kill
The murder combo
Ready up Q, Hit enemy in face or flash to, auto , E reset, Ulti, Auto, E reset, This is just the you die combo
Catch em out
Ready q, charge outward, Ulti out target - as it says your just going to catch em out here and then either force summoners or kill them

What to do and when
During mid game here is some stuff to keep in mind during mid game
Keep wards up on dragon, don't give up free objectives if able, Look for ganks on over extended lanes use that ulti power for kills, Get wards in jungle when able and on paths roams are likely to happen if lane phase is still going on
If ur fed
Get into that jungle for sure, your fed you murder people their jungle is now yours outside of 3 people or 2 heavy bursters you should be able to take on most 2 v 1 situation by instantly blowing up one of the 2 people (note this means landing q or you will probably only get 1 for 1 in this situation instead)
Kill ALL THE LANERS, force stuff on whoever you can when you can if they are alone and you are confident you can kill them, don't use your ulti if it's not needed, Look to solo drag whenever possible the scuttle doesn't see into the pit so if you can q over the wall and quickly take if you know no wards are around

Lastly small vi tips
You can cancel the animation for the 3rd proc of W with E, this is generally nice cause the W animation can slow auto's a little bit
get the Q auto e combo down this is really strong and is how I constantly 100-0 people without retaliation, follow this up with ulti if needed since their armor is rekt now

There you have it people (more may follow)
Edited by heavyweapons guy, Jun 11 2015, 05:22 PM.
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Kwon Ri Sae
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Pretty in depth.
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